Goodbye To Black Boxes?
By JetAviator7 on Jul 08, 2009 with Comments 3
The latest accident over the Atlantic Ocean demonstrates that there needs to be a better way of recording flight data than on the traditional black boxes, which by the way, are not black – but orange. Given the immense depths the flight recorders from the Air France and Yemeni Airways Airbus accidents have fallen in the ocean it appears they may not be easily recovered.

Aviation Safety Black Boxes
You may have noticed in news reports that some data is automatically transmitted on a continual basis from the aircraft via satellite to the home base. Because of this there has been a lot of information released regarding the waning moments of the Air France flight.
The problem, it seems, is that the amount of information the black boxes record is far too much for the simple systems used to monitor aircraft at the present time. Consider this – if the black boxes from the Air France loss could be recovered the NTSB would have 25 hours of data on 88 flight parameters plus the last two hours of cockpit conversations.
Add to that the estimated cost of $ 300 million per year for an air carrier that flys globally and it quickly becomes apparent that it is not cost effective, considering most black boxes are recovered from aircraft accidents. One thing that might help the cost issue is that removal of the black boxes weighing about 10 pounds could result in significant fuel cost savings.
But a search of the ocean floor at these depths could run $ 100K per day, so as with all things it becomes a cost/benefit equation.
Until next time keep your wings straight and level Hersch!
JetAviator7
When you get it right mighty beasts float up into the sky. When you get it wrong people die.
— Roger Bacon
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About the Author: John White is an ATP Pilot with several type ratings including the venerable Douglas DC-3. Over the years he has been both a charter pilot, flight instructor, corporate flight department head and retired from a 30 year career in the aviation insurance business in 2004.
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“REMOVAL OF 10 POUNDS COULD RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT FUEL COST SAVINGS”?!? Are we pedaling these planes? When was the last time you heard of an airplane of this size have an engine thrust rating measured down to the 10’s of pounds? Do the pilots ever request the plane to be fueled to 96,990 lbs instead of 97K, or have a baggage handler leave off a 10lb bag for “significant fuel cost savings?” Come on, Hersch!
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I am on the side of the individual with the argument that 10 lbs “will save fuel costs” ….I don’t think so …it’s definitely a weak argument … if those 10 lbs were passengers carry-on weight I could see an overall fuel savings …the amount of information and investigative importance an blackbox has, outweighs the cost to fly the extra 10 lbs. Safety in this case is much less expensive than doing without it, and then not knowing what have caused such an accident. Such devices improve upon aviation and, overall, reduce aviation deaths.